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Hey Peter - after thinking some more about the wheels - I think you're right - let's leave this one open to any 1/43 scale wheels. ( I don't think the Jiada Super Truck tires would offer a huge advantage - they are very thin tires) I've edited the wheels rule to reflect this.
So that would include the F1 Artin wheels Mike.

Steve - I made a crude magnet scale to check the pull of my #6 car - I measured approximately 580grams of force (pulling against the rails of an artin track) with an error of probably + or - 50 grams


As far as magnets vs voltage goes we have a few options - some more feasible than others

1) - Limited magnet - same track voltage for all tracks - (NO!)

2) - Limited magnet based on a measurement of pull - open voltage (everyone would have to be able to duplicate this accurately)

3) - Limited magnet based on type and number of magnets - open voltage ( a good idea - I like Peters idea of a combination of certain magnets - most everyone has access to them - let's consider this some more)

4) - Open magnet - same track voltage for all tracks (another good idea but I don't think this would work well or be popular for this series)

5) - Open magnet - open voltage (I'm still in favor of this one but not exclusively)

For me - it's close between 3 and 5

In all cases I think there still needs to be a minimum amp setting for each track because 10v at 400ma just won't cut it. I would say the minimum should at the very least be 800ma (0.8amps) but that's so close to 1 amp - let's just call it 1 amp
And I think the open voltage should still be a range of voltages to be used - I think 10v should be the minimum and 15v or 16v for the maximum

I think the lowest voltage last year was 9 volts at Mike's track

And yes - there is only one Pit Stop - any more than that and it's overkill - I think

Okay here's the official option 6 - both options 3 and 5

Stay with me for just a minute - we could run 2 classes. 1 entry per class.

Class 1 - unlimited magnet - the rest of the rules stay the same

Class 2 - limited magnet - no minimum weight - the rest of the rules stay the same


Class 2's limited mag rule would be along the lines of Peters idea - a limited # of magnets. Allowed magnets would be from the following 1/43 brands - Carrera Go!!!, Deegan Hevy Hitter's Anti-Gravity (Artin), SCX Compact, Artin standard mags and the Ranch-Design barrel magnets.

Here's a run-down of the magnetic pull of these magnets against the rails of an Artin track - I would say these are accurate to + or - 10 grams



from left to right

Artin standard full size ~ 65 grams
Artin standard half size ~ 45 grams
Deegan HH Anti-Gravity ~ 145 grams
SCX Compact ~ 100 grams
Carrera Go!!! ~ 120 grams
Ranch Design barrel mag ~ 35 grams

So if we do go this route - I think it would be a good idea to limit the # of magnets based on total pull. I think we should set the total pull to 250 grams and allow any combination of the above magnets that doesn't exceed that (according to numbers above). Examples would be a Deegan mag and a SCX mag for a total of 245 grams or 2 Carrera mags for a total of 240 grams or 6 Ranch Design mags for a total of 210 grams or 5 Artin half mags for a total of 225 grams good luck fitting those under your car!

Let's hear what you guys think about this!


And I think the idea of a wood track is very interesting - magnets on steel rails hide alot of build flaws but the wood track would show all of the flaws!! I'm certainly open to this idea.