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Chaparral 2D wrote:

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There are a lot of criticisms on the thread that are very valid.

Keep in mind, Scalextric basically sells toys for folks and kids to slap on the track and run around a lot, usually keep on because of the heavy mag downforce and destroy every so often so one has to buy more. Their cars run well with no work on their track. People have fun with them. For serious competition, with a couple of notable outstanding exceptions or if someone has incredible talent with building and tuning (The Camaro Trans-Am is the notable exception in my mind, maybe the new Chaparral), they're not really good choices for serious racing. Unless it's a spec class where everyone's running them. They're going for overall sales to kids, families, etc. Every so often we hardcores/old-schoolers get thrown a nice bone. I can't gripe.

Carrera I think has the same philosophy. They make what they make in the same style for their track and their fans. They seem to have done a little to try and address the gearing issues, etc., but they're much the same as scaley in terms of what they do and why. Suprisingly, a couple of their offerings aren't bad non-mag depending on what you're trying to do. The Ferrari Uovo actually had some potential when I mucked with mine a bit. Their 1/24 cars are hilarious fun to run against each other.

NINCO, I feel is a mixed issue altogether. They're who I cast my vote for. On one hand- their NC-5 and 6 motors are quite good! Again- on their tracks, their product is fun and runs well. But!---- They have so much potential as compared to the two I mentioned earler to compete with, but the chassis design is letting them down badly. I'm seeing too many of these cars with chassis failures, etc. in non-mag racing or just fun folling around racing. One of my IHSR friends took one of the NINCO Super GT cars and with his masterful modelling skills (And I mean masterful!) installed a slot.it AW pod into the back of it, and kept the rest of the car pretty much the same. This "Slinco" as we called it was every bit the compeition for an NSR Mosler. I know. I barely held him off, and had he made one less mistake, would have beaten me I think.

NINCO needs to go to a pod, like everyone else that's serious have. They're so close- yet they continue to muck with rear ends that crack and split. Put a pod in it like let's see... SCX, NSR, Slot.it, and Spirit have. If they did, I believe we'd be talking seriously about NINCO as being the best out there for serious racing and for fun racing. I'll stick my neck out and say if NINCO made an AW pod and stuck it in their Ascari- it would be the "Mosler Killer" everyone claims they have but don't.

Revellogram- I'm so frustrated with in so many ways I could cry. Maybe the Lola and the NASCARS will change my mind but I somehow doubt it. Goofy Tuner cars. Beautifully detailed cars that run bad. Why didn't I vote for them as dropping the ball!?!?!? They have never had the ball in their hands to begin with! So, they can't be accused of dropping it!

As for Fly, at least they have shown some decent cars lately- that Fly Racing Alfa is a very good product. I like mine a ton. But it seems as the value of the Euro has climbed, I've stopped buying their cars. Which is sad.

SCX is trying new things, and I think has responded to a lot of the gripes. A motor with a bit more everything, developing a pod, the Pro Race cars- I'm impressed with what seems to be some honest efforts to do some nice things with their product. I've always liked their stuff for the fact it's great for beginners, tough, easy to run, and is a blast to race against each other, but it seems they're trying to get beyond that. Good for them!

As for Slot.it and Spirit, they're doing their things well. Very well. Good product. Fast, and good non-mag or mag. Quality.

Avant Slot has brilliant ideas, just not quite on pace as of yet with my Mosler. Yet is the operative word there I think....

And NSR is going to be releasing a FordGT MkIV next year. About the only gripe there might be that there isn't a lot of variety of cars, but what there is, is quality, and a lot of fun to compete with. The cars make me look good. Anything that can do that is incredible.

Just my 2 cents.

Bob

Wow Bob, I had been contemplating about replying to this thread for over a week, and you have summed up my thoughts almost exactly

you're thoughts on Ninco so closely resemble mine. I guess I hold them to a higher standard, and am more critical because I feel they know better, and are so close sometimes, but yet I know they are just like the rest and have to cater to thier larger market, I do believe like you that at the very least thier "Pro-Race" line must have some type of pod to be seriously considered

which brings up a good point you made about having picked up the ball in the first place, who's ball? ours or thiers?

most of the larger companies make an excellent product for thier market, we here that show our frustration are just NOT that market. I think we would do better asking for a pro-race line for us, rather than expecting them to convert thier entire line.

For me personally, the only thing I truly need is an adjustable chasis that was small enough to convert some of my favorite small cars, one that is easy to get, and could be a 'standard' for my small car fleet. I'm talking mainly Rally type cars.

so I still havn't voted on anyone dropping the ball

anyways, excellent reply

John