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ddyke |
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I was wondering what is the advantage of a raised center rib on a wheel over a center groove?
Dan
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ddyke |
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I did a quick graphic of what I am asking. Why is type B preferred over type A?
Scrappy Dan
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SJSlots |
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I have some nice vintage 1/24 wheels that are type A and PPR SuperWheels are type A....
From a mass production point of view a raised center rib means using less rubber when making a tire. The amount might seem trivial but make a few thousand tires and I'm guessing the difference is measurable in cost.
" If you can't beat em'.... beat ON them!"
Shawn@HomeRacingWorld.com Cincinnati, Ohio U.S.A -------------
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TightLip |
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Personal preferance Dan, I prefer type B. Only because I would rather not have the big rib showing outside the tire. Looks better with inserts if the rim is
barely visible (to me)
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ddyke |
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The rib does not show the way I mold them. I macvhined a brass mold with a curved side. Externally the two look the same.
Scrappy Dan
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Shawn, I was thinking the same thing, but 'less rubber' also translates into 'more plastic' or 'more metal' on the wheel. I'd
prefer Type A wheels -- they'd be lighter, with less mass at the rim (and less rotational inertia). Also, the one are where the Type A wheels are beefed
up is where the wheel is weakest, so that's an added bonus.
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SJSlots |
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A lot of manufacturers make multi piece wheels though. Can you make a good strength multi-piece type A wheel? Do you need to? Now I'm wondering why
multi-piece are what many are doing....
" If you can't beat em'.... beat ON them!"
Shawn@HomeRacingWorld.com Cincinnati, Ohio U.S.A -------------
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SJSlots wrote: ---------------- The only thing that makes sense at all is that it is a cheaper process to mold, de-mold, clean up flashing (Hah! on that last one) and re assemble with a multi-piece wheel mold. Type "A" is a more complex casting, or machining process, but I prefer it. It could just be nostalgia, though, because that's what I cut my teeth on. Regarding performance differences, I suppose it is theoretically possible, but I'll bet practically unmeasurable. The differences would come in as
"sidewall flexation". To make an almost absurd comparison, tire mounted on a wheel with a high center rib would act more like an extremely low
profile tire mounted on a 20" rim - ie. less sidewall flex and lateral movement but at the cost of a "harder" ride. The wheel with the depressed
center would take a taller, unsupported, tire with the opposite effects manifested - ie. a softer ride and more lateral chassis movement in relation to the
tread contact patch on the road.
I think...
Greg
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03/06/08 05:33 PM.
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RichD |
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It's a conspiracy! With a double flange hub you only have to worry about matching the diameter and width. With center ridge wheels you have two more
variables, the width and height of the ridge. The center ridge design makes finding matching tires more complicated. As for two piece wheels wheels I think you
are likely to have twice as much trouble with them.
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jd of racing |
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ddyke,are you making wheels for others?
i would be interested. can you send some pictures to my email address below? thank you, jd msjdracing@rtmc.net |
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ddyke |
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No, as it is too time intensive at least for now. I measure 85 times, cut once, screw up a bunch. I only make wheels I can't get.
BWA will expand his line when he gets funding. He hopes to bring out a small wheel for Sprites and Midgets. My loving wife just bought me another cutting tool for the lathe that should speed it up. The last wheel took about 45 minutes. DAN
Scrappy Dan
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